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[Hardcore Bob]

 

 

 

"A Malaysia Airlines (MAS) jet was shot down over eastern Ukraine, killing all 298 people on board, in an attack that the government in Kiev blamed on pro-Russian rebels. The separatists denied the accusation."

17-07-2014, an airliner left from Schiphol (Amsterdam) to Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia) and got shot down over Ukraine by THIS THING:
 

 

 

298 people were killed

154 of which were Dutch

1 of which Tsjokko new personally

All considered dead.

Source:
http://www.bloomberg...a-ifx-says.html

[Dr Scheisse]

"If it dissapears, this is what it looks like"

That (I'm calling it a tweet now can't remember if it was on facebook) tweet seems so fucked up now :/

[Tabole]

I wonder why the airspace within 1k+ miles of the area is not off limits, there have been multiple Ukrainian planes shot down by Russians before. 

[Marmite]

Because previously they have all been Military planes, but now all flights are redirected around it.

[UnDead]

Is it just coincidence that it was a Malaysian airliner?
After the disappearance of flight MH370

[Eddyke1]

Who the fuck wanna fly over warzones... Crazy people,

[bongfeng5000]

The Ukraine separatist leader was boasting on twitter/facebook about downing an AN26 at a similar time to when the MAS jet was shot down. Maybe they mistook it?

 

separatist leader Igor Girkin boasted on Facebook at about the same time the plane went down claiming to have downed a transport plane, though the post was quickly deleted after it became clear the plane was a passenger aircraft.

“In Torez An-26 was shot down, its crashes are lying somewhere near the coal mine “Progress,” read the tweet, obtained by FoxNews.com and translated into English. "We have warned everyone: do not fly in our skies.”

 

Then again, Fox news isn't the greatest of sources...

[Astro]

Who the fuck wanna fly over warzones... Crazy people,

They have to stick to certain flight paths

[Dart-Lobrik]

The whole story is fishy as fuck, on that tragic day the plane actually changed its route

15 july

16 july

17 july

 

Second, why do "terrorists" even want to shoot down a civil plane when its a good opportunity to start a war for USA (remember the battleship Maine, RMS Lusitania or even the Tonkin incident)

 

Third, there is no serious proof that "terrorists" have these missle complex (called "Бук"), but the Ucranian army, actually has them, that is a fact. Another fact is that there already was a similar accident when the Ucranian military force shot down a civil plane in 2001 as a result of "mistake" during military trainings

[Commander]

"If it dissapears, this is what it looks like"

That (I'm calling it a tweet now can't remember if it was on facebook) tweet seems so fucked up now :/

 

It was on facebook I guess: https://www.facebook...25135026&type=1

[Dart-Lobrik]

Regarless of who pulled the trigger is so fucked up so many civilians die because of politicall ambitions

[Loadingue]

The whole story is

 fishy as fuck, on that tragic day the plane actually changed its route

That might explain why it was shot down, they didn't expect the plane to fly through there.
 
 

Second, why do "terrorists" even want to shoot down a civil plane when its a good opportunity to start a war for USA (remember the battleship Maine, RMS Lusitania or even the Tonkin incident)

But the USA don't want to start a war. And they won't. They have no reason whatsoever to start a war.

Also, air traffic right now:

[Dart-Lobrik]

Actually a war for USA is a good way to fix their economics problems

[bongfeng5000]

 

"If it disappears, this is what it looks like"

 

thats some creepy shit

 

edit* my bad someone already posted the pic in the images thread.

[Loadingue]

Actually a war for USA is a good way to fix their economics problems

 

Hahahahaha

 

Sorry, but no. A few months ago, the US government even decided to reduce drastically the military budget. They were preparing for peace, not war.

[Hardcore Bob]

If what Melon posted is true, I'm 100% convinced they accidentally took down the wrong plane.
The only question is, is it true or not.

[user]

Yes, fix the economic problems by spending billions on a war with a giant like Russia. I'm pretty sure neither USA nor Russia want to fight one another.

[Luke]

Except war DOES boost the economy, if only in short term, especially if it's fought in another country.

Military spending, like other forms of government spending, can be an important source of 

economic demand during times of low confidence and downturn. It can lead to the development 

of new technologies, generate new industries and create sources of demand and employment. 

If military spending is funded by progressive taxation, as it was during World War II, it can 

indirectly result in more efficient income distribution. The flattening of income distribution 

after 1945 helped facilitate the creation of a large consumer oriented middle class which was the 

foundation stone for the long post-war boom that underpinned the U.S.’s subsequent political 

economic pre-eminence.

Source: ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES of WAR on the U.S. ECONOMY

 

I'm not in any way implying nor do I think USA shot the plane down, but war isn't just about spending billions, there ARE positive consequences to economy too.

 

As I said yesterday, Toggle, Americans aren't joining and starting wars and spreading freedom just out of the goodnes of their hearts. It IS, at least to some extent, about money.

[Loadingue]

What Luke posted only shows that war boosts economy only if the country works at it.

 

The USA are not prepared for war, if they're attacked now it will be a disastrous blow to their economy.

[Tabole]

As long as we're on conspiracy theories; Ukrainians purposefully navigate the jet to that airspace hoping the Russians will shoot it down! Wouldn't shock me.